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Postby antman on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:15 pm

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Postby moggy on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:25 pm

Now that would be a very usefull micro. Bring it on! :)

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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:29 pm

More NLD :roll:

Is AF-S help in macro shooting? I don't see the point, perhaps with VR, look at the build of the new micro AF-S VR, I don't see its quality will surpass the old version.
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Postby Glen on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:32 pm

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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:35 pm

I'm a Nikon fan, but I don't hold my confidence over Nikon new lenses which recently released.

The 18-200 is out of my sight! perhaps also this new Micro AF-S VR 105.
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Postby Mj on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:40 pm

Sounds like Nikon are focussing on marketing hype features rather than solid quality... easier to sell lens that also play mp3 music than boring old metal and glass.
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:44 pm

Mj wrote:Sounds like Nikon are focussing on marketing hype features rather than solid quality... easier to sell lens that also play mp3 music than boring old metal and glass.


Yes, I agree and won't see much value of the new series.
I rather holding and keep the old lenses in my bag than sourcing these new plasticky, cheaply made and perhaps quality is also on the down side.
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Postby Heath Bennett on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:45 pm

Could be useful, if VR works exceptionally. Don't think it'll ever be as good as a tripod though.
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:47 pm

The only point I like with this new lens is the internal focusing :)
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:48 pm

Heath Bennett wrote:Could be useful, if VR works exceptionally. Don't think it'll ever be as good as a tripod though.


Well, tripod is a must for serious macro shooter.
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:50 pm

I don’t see any point in having VR on a macro lens. Most shots would be taken with flash as f stops from f/22 and up would require flash anyway :!:
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:53 pm

sirhc55 wrote:I don’t see any point in having VR on a macro lens. Most shots would be taken with flash as f stops from f/22 and up would require flash anyway :!:


Chris,
it's a joke! and tempting the newbie in shooting macro! Another marketing hype.
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Postby Glen on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:56 pm

Sounds like you don't like the quality of the new lens Birddy
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:57 pm

Birddog114 wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:I don’t see any point in having VR on a macro lens. Most shots would be taken with flash as f stops from f/22 and up would require flash anyway :!:


Chris,
it's a joke! and tempting the newbie in shooting macro! Another marketing hype.


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Postby avkomp on Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:36 pm

I have the conventional lens so wont be getting one.

seems to me that a lot of macro stuff would be on tripods also.

do we really wish to shoot high magifications at slower speeds anyhow??

seems to be of limited value to me!

Still they will probably sell heaps.

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Postby shutterbug on Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:39 pm

I would love one :wink:
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Postby shutterbug on Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:41 pm

Thi slens would be great for weddings.

Anyone got a price?
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:08 pm

shutterbug wrote:Thi slens would be great for weddings.

Anyone got a price?


It’s not exactly a portrait lens and would not have the versatility of, for example, the Nikkor 17-55mm :wink:
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Postby MHD on Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:14 pm

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Postby shutterbug on Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:36 pm

I love shooting with my primes...this will be great
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Postby shutterbug on Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:36 pm

next will be a 85mm F1.4 VR :wink:
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Postby blacknstormy on Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:07 pm

Wow - my dream lens would be the 70-300 G VR f4-5.6 :roll:
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what a lens

Postby yeocsa on Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:21 pm

wow. what a lens. Well done, Nikon.


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Postby NikonUser on Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:54 pm

The VRII function minimizes camera shake by offering the equivalent of a shutter speed 4 stops* faster at near infinity to 3m (1/30x reproduction ratio) shooting.



Why only from 'near infinity to 3m'? What about at infinity and closer than 3m?

To me the VR would be most interesting for macro work.... this sounds like it won't be as good at close range?

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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:56 pm

Blackstormy,

Could be the 70-300 G VR f4-5.6 in the horizon.
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Postby kipper on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:08 pm

My dream would be the 300-600VR :)
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Postby NikonUser on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:17 pm

Not that I'd be able to afford it...

But to add to the:

70-200 VR
200-400 VR

I'd like to see a

400-800 VR

Those few (and a couple of others :)) would be my dream setup for just about anything I'd want to shoot.

Kinda hard to transport though. I struggle with the gear I have :)

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Postby kipper on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:20 pm

I don't think you'll see anything in the 800 range by Nikon, Paul.

They could do a zoom upto 600, I think they'd want to keep the aperture at F4 and allow people to use TCs to increase the focal length which would I guess be a lighter option then what an 800 F5.6 would be.

Would be nice if the 300-600 was variable apeture F2.8-4 :)
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:22 pm

Nikonuser + kipper,
Go to your own bed and have your sweet dream :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby NikonUser on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:25 pm

kipper wrote:I don't think you'll see anything in the 800 range by Nikon, Paul.



Yeah I figured the same thing... just dreaming.

In a way I'm glad anyway because I'd never be able to afford/justify it. The 500 f4 secondhand was as good as I can afford (not that it is in any way bad!!) without making money from the photos.

Back on topic: I can't see myself buying the 105VR macro for the VR (although I might be in the market for a 105 macro soon). As was mentioned above, I don't think the VR would add much to macro shots as I do most of mine on a tripod and at higher shutter speeds with flash anyway.
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Postby Nicole on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:33 pm

Hmm I have to say I see this as more of a marketing ploy too. I never use autofocus with my macro lens but I guess those who use it for other purposes might. :roll:
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Postby blacknstormy on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:39 pm

but I was kidding :)
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Postby Zeeke on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:42 pm

Rel, When are you getting the 105mm VR Micro?? :lol:

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Postby greencardigan on Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:26 pm

:agree:
I agree with some of the others. I don't want to shoot with slower shutter speeds. Generally I use 1/500 for my insect shots.
VR might be handy if no flash was being used.

Birddog114 wrote:Well, tripod is a must for serious macro shooter.

I cant remember the last time I used a tripod for macro shots. I consider a tripod virtually useless when shooting small flying insects etc.

Nicole wrote:Hmm I have to say I see this as more of a marketing ploy too. I never use autofocus with my macro lens but I guess those who use it for other purposes might. :roll:

I use AF-C in approximately 75% of my insect shots.
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:30 pm

greencardigan wrote::agree:
I agree with some of the others. I don't want to shoot with slower shutter speeds. Generally I use 1/500 for my insect shots.
VR might be handy if no flash was being used.


I will be mostly be capturing stationary objects eg wedding rings, with available light so the VR would be a great help
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Postby greencardigan on Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:23 pm

The Internal Focussing and the Nano Crystal Coat will be nice features even if the VR is near useless. BTW, how long have Nikon had an Australian website?
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Postby Glen on Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:32 pm

Birddog114 wrote:Nikonuser + kipper,
Go to your own bed and have your sweet dream :lol: :lol: :lol:


Best comment I have seen :lol: :lol: :lol:


Paul (Nikon user),
from the current Nikon line up an 800mm 5.6
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Postby Ant on Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:48 pm

Pop this in a housing and it might be a nice lens for macro when diving. It is hard enough to hold the camera steady in a current and you get wierd looks when you take a tripod diving (and yes, I have done this)

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Postby tasadam on Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:51 pm

Why not build a teleconverter with VR and be done with it? Now that I COULD use!!
Don't suppose the optics would work like that, though, so it's probably not possible. But a nice idea!

VR is great from my limited use of it, but in a 105 micro? I'm happy with the original D lens as it is.
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Postby phillipb on Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:10 pm

tasadam wrote:Why not build a teleconverter with VR and be done with it? Now that I COULD use!!
Don't suppose the optics would work like that, though, so it's probably not possible. But a nice idea!


I don't know if it is physically possible but it would be commercial suicide from nikon. Selling one item would not be anywhere near as profitable as selling a heap of different VR lenses.
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Postby Glen on Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:31 pm

tasadam wrote:Why not build a teleconverter with VR and be done with it? Now that I COULD use!!
Don't suppose the optics would work like that, though, so it's probably not possible. But a nice idea!

VR is great from my limited use of it, but in a 105 micro? I'm happy with the original D lens as it is.



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That is similar to how the Konica Minolta system works, VR in the body, any old lens becomes VR
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Postby tasadam on Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:41 pm

Glen wrote:Adam,

That is similar to how the Konica Minolta system works, VR in the body, any old lens becomes VR


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Postby Glen on Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:43 pm

Adam, sure it will happen just keep thinking :wink:
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Postby antman on Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:30 pm

Someone has had a play with one here:
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