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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:15 pm
by kipper
Personally I'm happy with 6mp, could of gone possibly 8mp and still been happy. What I really want is pro AF (both subject lock and drive of big lens) and a pro Viewfinder. Moving subjects are a bitch with the D70.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:02 am
by Jeko70
This is a copy link of the Nikon italian web site!http://fradlis.com/leak200.htm#top

Unfortunatly I can't confirm or tell you if it it's true or not because they have revoved the original link from from the website now!
Nikon rules :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fab PS I will let you know as soon as I'll know

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:39 am
by MCWB
johndec wrote:"Only" 95% VF coverage - still better than D70

Only 1/250 flash sync. Can't understand why a CCD suddenly can't do 1/500

1) 95% coverage @ 0.94x is on par with the D2X's 100% @ 0.86x (slightly bigger image but slightly less frame coverage), and naturally superior to the D70s (95% @ 0.75x).

2) 1/250 ISO100 (D200) is the same exposure value as 1/500 ISO200 (D70)...

Looks like it will meter with non-CPU AI lenses too, it just gets better and better. 8)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:18 am
by Michael
Soooo

It's november the 1st wheres the D200? or will nikon wait for the res of the world to catch up to us?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:04 am
by MCWB
Judging from John's post, it looks like Wednesday morning 6 am AEDST is when the NDA expires.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:20 am
by sirhc55
Considering that it is:

4.20pm Monday in LA
7.20pm Monday in NY
12.20am Tuesday London

I would assume we are looking at another 12 hours minimum based on London time :wink: :wink: :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:22 am
by Raskill
...but I can't wait that long... all ready planning my financials.... need price.... need new body... (thats a camera body...)....

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:27 am
by Nnnnsic
MCWB wrote:Judging from John's post, it looks like Wednesday morning 6 am AEDST is when the NDA expires.


Not my NDA, I don't think. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:41 am
by johndec
MCWB wrote:Judging from John's post, it looks like Wednesday morning 6 am AEDST is when the NDA expires.


That was only going on a post at dpreview that stated there was a Nikon presentation at that time in The Netherlands... I've also read that it may be released at 3pm Tokyo time today, which is 5pm Sydney time.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:14 pm
by Antsl
I can let you know that Maxwells are announcing the camera tomorrow ... it would have been today however as Victoria is shut down today for the cup they have held it over for a day.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:59 pm
by Michael
I got the half day off work today so I could come home drink plenty of beer and eat lots of food!

beats taking pictures of shoes and jewellery any day of the week!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:23 pm
by birddog114
johndec wrote:
MCWB wrote:Judging from John's post, it looks like Wednesday morning 6 am AEDST is when the NDA expires.


That was only going on a post at dpreview that stated there was a Nikon presentation at that time in The Netherlands... I've also read that it may be released at 3pm Tokyo time today, which is 5pm Sydney time.


John
3:00pm in Tokyo should be 6:00PM in Sydney, we just had our DS on Sunday.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:24 pm
by huynhie
Can anybody understand French

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:26 pm
by huynhie
The AF looks very interesting, it appears to be a Sony Sensor as well


released 21November?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:00 pm
by MCWB
huynhie wrote:Can anybody understand French
Oui. ;) Anything in particular you'd like translated? I'm sure Gerard can help too. :)

Edit: from the last paragraph it looks like it'll be released just before Christmas (Nov 21 is nearly a month before the first specimens of the D200 will appear).

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:30 pm
by cyanide
Birddog114 wrote:
johndec wrote:
MCWB wrote:Judging from John's post, it looks like Wednesday morning 6 am AEDST is when the NDA expires.


That was only going on a post at dpreview that stated there was a Nikon presentation at that time in The Netherlands... I've also read that it may be released at 3pm Tokyo time today, which is 5pm Sydney time.


John
3:00pm in Tokyo should be 6:00PM in Sydney, we just had our DS on Sunday.


Birddog - I think the 3pm Tokyo = 5pm Sydney comparison is actually correct - without DS, it would be 3pm Tokyo = 4pm Sydney.....

Cheers :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:43 pm
by birddog114
Sorry, I thought Tokyo is same time zone of HKG

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:48 pm
by myarhidia
Has anyone seen the info on the kenrockwell website on the D200 ?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:57 pm
by gstark
myarhidia wrote:Has anyone seen the info on the kenrockwell website on the D200 ?


Please note Ken's usual disclaimer.

All of this article is conjecture.


Thus endeth today's lesson. :)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:05 pm
by xorl
It has been announced in the UK and Japan..

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:09 pm
by birddog114
Price from Nikon Japan & UK in RRP

It's 1300GBP = 2298.36 USD

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:10 pm
by NikonUser
I like the fact that you will be able to zoom in 400% on images on the LCD... should be good for checking sharpness!!

So far it's looking great.

AF performance and image quality (duh!) will be the deciding factors for me.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:11 pm
by johndec
Vanbar already have it on their site and VERY sharply priced ($AU2530 incl GST) :lol: Of course when they will have stock is another question...

http://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/index.php?id=66.249.71.691129506246&brand=&user=&end=1&Item1=CAMERA&Item2=DIGITAL-SLR&Item3=NIKON

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:14 pm
by huynhie
johndec wrote:Vanbar already have it on their site and VERY sharply priced ($AU2530 incl GST) :lol: Of course when they will have stock is another question...

http://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/index.php?id=66.249.71.691129506246&brand=&user=&end=1&Item1=CAMERA&Item2=DIGITAL-SLR&Item3=NIKON




This is going to be a very popular camera for Nikon at that price

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:16 pm
by NikonUser
I got my D70 from Vanbar for a greatly reduced price compared to the other retailers (The kit lens was basically free)...

... They could do well from a price like that!!

Paul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:16 pm
by birddog114
John,

It's estimated price only,

Nikon D200 Basic (Approx Price only)


Yes, you'll have to think or looking around or over AU$3k. in the shop.
Price for it, is not confirmed from Maxwell as yet, but first lot of stock in Australia will be end of Jan 06.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:27 pm
by johndec
Birddog114 wrote:John,

It's estimated price only,



I noticed that Birdy, but if they want to sell any to people who are members of this forum, they won't want to charge any more or otherwise we'll all be sending our money to Mr Poon :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:30 pm
by gstark
johndec wrote:Vanbar already have it on their site


It'll be interesting to see how their prices hold once stock is available.

Of course, the ever on-the-ball Maxwell's wbsite is still totally clueless.

I think it may have been last updated in around 1870, such is the way Maxwell keep their website up-to-date and their pricing regime realistic.

Of course, I'm somewhat disappointed in the specs for this camera, and it has very few features that I find compelling. 10.2 MP ?? Blah!

Why make yet another sensor? it only increases the costs to the consumer!

WT3 wireless transmitter? Again, why not the WT2? Again, this seems to me to be poor use of existing resources.

At least it has an x-synch socket, and the multiple exposure facility is nice.

But I don't really see this as a compelling upgrade path; I'll wait for February, when they'll announce the D90 as the D70's replacement, using the same sensor technology, at about $200 more than a D50.

And then we can wait until 2007 for Maxwell's to update their website with it!

:(

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:30 pm
by blinkblink
A preview of the D200 just appeared on dpreview

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond200/

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:31 pm
by NikonUser
Dpreview have a hands on preview up already

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond200/

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:32 pm
by birddog114
johndec wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:John,

It's estimated price only,



I noticed that Birdy, but if they want to sell any to people who are members of this forum, they won't want to charge any more or otherwise we'll all be sending our money to Mr Poon :lol: :lol: :lol:


John,
I do not want to tell you this coz I did have the price of it from this morning at the launch in conjunction with Melbourne Cup Lunch.
It's more higher than what Vanbar advertised, I may buy from them and resell to my customer if they do sell at that price, that's under cost ex-GST. BTW, 20 preordered unit which I already have in my book as of this hour.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:36 pm
by gstark
 AI aperture ring.

That's good!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:37 pm
by sirhc55
For me the most interesting release is the Macro Set A at £550 - bring it on :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:38 pm
by birddog114
OK, the truth is:

Don't expect to much on the CAM 1000 and the D200 spec., otherwise rants and rants and rants and mad and mad :twisted: :twisted:

I said this to Sirhc55 last Saturday evening and I confirmed it now.

As soon as it available, I'll have it at the mini meet for you guys play around and confim my statement.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:39 pm
by NikonUser
Can anyone explain what


• 11/7 area TTL (7 in wide focus area mode)

means when talking about the AF module?

Thanks

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:40 pm
by birddog114
gstark wrote:AI aperture ring.

That's good!


MF lenses now will be revised back to life and price will be hiked soon! :wink:

Some MF lenses are more superb than today zoom and prime.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:42 pm
by birddog114
sirhc55 wrote:For me the most interesting release is the Macro Set A at £550 - bring it on :D


sirhc55,
I have them on preorder last week with the SU-800.
More toys for the big boy to play next year :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:56 pm
by birddog114
Sit back, relax! and consider yourself.

Who's going to buy the D200 with the 18-70 kit lens? it's also a joke!!!!!!

And with 17-55DX, RRP

2,300.00 GBP = 4,061.57 USD = AU$5414.00

Maxwell's RRP of the D200 body only is still around the level which I posted early on this thread, it's not too far with RRP in the US$2300.00

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:07 pm
by gstark
Birddog114 wrote:
gstark wrote:AI aperture ring.

That's good!


MF lenses now will be revised back to life and price will be hiked soon! :wink:

Some MF lenses are more superb than today zoom and prime.


If the viewfinder's up to snuff, this would be a good reason for those with older film cameras (who have not yet made the switch) to move to digital.

I'm still not seeing any reasons for a typical D70 user to jump ship.

I would like to see some pricing info on and sample images from the 18-200 though.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:12 pm
by MCWB
Birddog114 wrote:Sit back, relax! and consider yourself.

Yup, will be doing just that. Looks like we've got until at least February or March until these are in decent supply, possibly more. Really depends on price too, if we're talking A$3900 that's way exxy, the French article linked a few pages ago mentions sub-2000 Euro (i.e. low-$3Ks).

I think this camera is indeed a good upgrade option from the D70 (if you're so inclined) and can't afford the D2X, it's certainly one I can't wait to play with. There are no huge 'blow your mind' features over the D70 (maybe metering with AI lenses), but let's face it, it's similar with the D2X really, and the D200 aint going to be better than the flagship. Instead, it's many incremental increases, which together make the difference. Sure, the D70 is better bang for buck, but I'm an enthusiast who wants to take photos with the thing, not a bean-counter. If I wanted bang for buck I'd have stuck with the D70 and 18-70. :)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:17 pm
by huynhie
The Nikon USA site is up


verrrry slow though

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:19 pm
by birddog114
For D70 Users:
Hang on to your beloved D70 and wait for the next release, not too far away! :wink:

For Fuji S2/ D100/ P&S owner or who's never own a DSLR, the D200 is maybe for your consideration. It's Pro-built with "crappy" CAM 1000 and 10.2, and it's only 20% of features more than what your D70 can do for you but double the price of the D70 (body only).

For D2 series, just forget it! it'll suffer you for the rest of your life.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:20 pm
by huynhie
Birddog114 wrote:For D70 Users:
Hang on to your beloved D70 and wait for the next release, not too far away! :wink:

For Fuji S2/ D100/ P&S owner or who's never own a DSLR, the D200 is maybe for your consideration. It's Pro-built with "crappy" CAM 1000 and 10.2, and it's only 20% of features more than what your D70 can do for you but double the price of the D70 (body only).

For D2 series, just forget it! it'll suffer you for the rest of your life.



But new toys are always fun to have and play with :D :D :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:28 pm
by birddog114
MCWB wrote: [Yup, will be doing just that. Looks like we've got until at least February or March until these are in decent supply, possibly more. Really depends on price too, if we're talking A$3900 that's way exxy, the French article linked a few pages ago mentions sub-2000 Euro (i.e. low-$3Ks).


It's RRP and it'll be around AU$3K at the time it's available in Australia.
First lot is available at the end of December, but don't hold your breath! It's only available for commercial only and very limited.

Next lot will be end of January or mid of Feb due to New Year and other holidays. The most and good timing for stock fullfilled is after Chinese NY or around March/ April next year. By June 06 or after, it'll be "cash & carry" and it's time for your Tax Refunds cheque to be banked into Nikon's coffin.

I have to submit the forecast of it for ordering soon :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:31 pm
by birddog114
huynhie wrote:
But new toys are always fun to have and play with :D :D :D


Are you seriously thinking of upgrading your D2x to D200? :shock:
The D2x is only 3 letters and the D200 is four letter and it's the highest number in Nikon DSLR body. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:38 pm
by huynhie
Birddog114 wrote:
huynhie wrote:
But new toys are always fun to have and play with :D :D :D


Are you seriously thinking of upgrading your D2x to D200? :shock:
The D2x is only 3 letters and the D200 is four letter and it's the highest number in Nikon DSLR body. :lol:



Of course not! The D2x is still my love child :D

But I've got to admit this new camera if one sexy beast.

This is the camera Glen was waiting for.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:40 pm
by cordy
Birddog114 wrote:OK, the truth is:

Don't expect to much on the CAM 1000 and the D200 spec., otherwise rants and rants and rants and mad and mad :twisted: :twisted:

I said this to Sirhc55 last Saturday evening and I confirmed it now.

As soon as it available, I'll have it at the mini meet for you guys play around and confim my statement.


Damnit, really was hoping for something better than CAM1000.. <sigh>

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:40 pm
by birddog114
huynhie wrote:But I've got to admit this new camera if one sexy beast.

This is the camera Glen was waiting for.


Will he? He loves sexy beast? :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:41 pm
by huynhie
cordy wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:OK, the truth is:

Don't expect to much on the CAM 1000 and the D200 spec., otherwise rants and rants and rants and mad and mad :twisted: :twisted:

I said this to Sirhc55 last Saturday evening and I confirmed it now.

As soon as it available, I'll have it at the mini meet for you guys play around and confim my statement.


Damnit, really was hoping for something better than CAM1000.. <sigh>


get a D2x.... it's got Cam2000 :D :D :D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:43 pm
by cordy
huynhie wrote:
cordy wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:OK, the truth is:

Don't expect to much on the CAM 1000 and the D200 spec., otherwise rants and rants and rants and mad and mad :twisted: :twisted:

I said this to Sirhc55 last Saturday evening and I confirmed it now.

As soon as it available, I'll have it at the mini meet for you guys play around and confim my statement.


Damnit, really was hoping for something better than CAM1000.. <sigh>


get a D2x.... it's got Cam2000 :D :D :D


I am now seriously entertaining that thought, however the price of a D2x is another thing alltogether :(