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Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:32 pm
by kitchenwench
Hi guys,

I'm planning on investing in a flash unit for my 450D (planning to eventually get into strobing but just want a hotshoe flash for now). I'm looking at getting a 430ex speedlite, but noticed that the importers all have a standard 430ex and the Teds website only has listed 430ex II (I assume that means mark 2). I can't find any info on this elsewhere, can anyone tell me the difference between the mark 1 and mark 2 versions?

Thanks in advance,
Ellie :)

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:34 pm
by dviv
Hi Ellie,

I have a 580EX II - and used to have a 580EX. The main differences are the camera attachment lock is differnet (and much better), it has some weather sealing around the shoe, a different on/off switch, and a PC socket. It also recycles a lot quicker (or so the manual says)

So there are quite a few differences between the two. I would assumed from this that the 430EX II will be quite a bit differnet as well. As the 430EX II has replaced the 430EX and should be the same price, I'd make sure you get the second version :up:

Hope that helps

David

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 am
by Doctor
I have just ordered a 580 EX II off the net and then preceded to find a 580 EX elsewhere a bit cheaper and was wondering the same thing, ill stick with my order but was curious none the less, cheers for asking the question for me :up:

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:06 am
by kitchenwench
@ Dviv - Oooh, thanks for the info :D Will have to make sure that I get the mark 2 version then!

@ Doc - My pleasure :) May I ask where you bought your flash from? I'm still hunting around for prices...if I can find a good price for the 580 ex then I might go down that road, just not sure if the extra distance/strength is worth the $300 price diff that I saw on the Ted's site :/

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:37 am
by jdear
I have both the 580 + 580ex II and some of the improvements the 580ex II have is:

weather sealed
newer locking mechanism (sooo much better)
silent operation - not the whine up when it discharges
sync port - important if you want to get into strobing etc
better zoom coverage
better battery door - I dont like the 580ex one.
20% faster recylce time

One of the only things I dont like about the newer II model is how you have to use menu options to put the flash into either slave / master for using canon's infared communication system. (canons equivalent CLS) The older just had a slider switch which was a million times easier.

Id try and get a 580ex II over the 430 if possible. From memory the 430 doesnt support high-voltage battery packs. (such as the canon CP-E4)

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:54 am
by dviv
jdear wrote:Ibetter battery door - I dont like the 580ex one.


Oh yeah, forgot about that one! And I agree - the old one was shocking

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:10 am
by daniel81
430ex II has a 20% faster recycle rate, a metal hotshoe connector (mark 1 only had a plastic one) & control through the unit's LCD. That's the main difference between the 2 430ex's.

Here's the info from Canon's USA site: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=141&modelid=17302

I'll be pulling the trigger on a 430ex II shortly...

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:40 am
by kitchenwench
What do you mean by pulling the trigger?

I've just seen a used 430ex mark 1 on sale for $200 ex postage...wondering if I should just buy it!

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:30 am
by dviv
kitchenwench wrote:I've just seen a used 430ex mark 1 on sale for $200 ex postage...wondering if I should just buy it!


That's a pretty good price :up: It would be worth picking up even to use as a second flash down the track

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:23 pm
by Doctor
kitchenwench wrote:@ Doc - My pleasure :) May I ask where you bought your flash from? I'm still hunting around for prices...if I can find a good price for the 580 ex then I might go down that road, just not sure if the extra distance/strength is worth the $300 price diff that I saw on the Ted's site :/


I ordered mine through DDP (Discount Digital Photographics), off the net, everytime i went to a store, Teds, camera house, diamonds, none of them wanted to deal with me, were hesitant to give prices and seemed uncomfortable answering my questions, so i put a 3.5k order in with DDP instead, havnt heard bad things, so gave them a try!

Re: Canon speedlites - difference between I and II?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:47 am
by Grev
The main thing about the 580ex2 is the weather sealing around the mount and the PC sync socket.

The 430ex2 adds a better mount and faster recycling as far as I remember.