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			 by biggerry on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:14 am
 Not a review by any means, merely a few obervations after using this lens a couple of times. 1) this sh$t has razor thin DOF, straight outta the box 95% of the first 50 shots missed eyes, got hair, fences, dogs and everything else. 2) This is sharp, if the nikkor is sharper than this then them pixels must be neatly shaved. 3) Lens cap and hood - the person who design this should be taken out and forehead slapped...twice, then made to design shirt buttons for at least a year - damn turkey's, it ain't that hard but they have successfully made a perfectly good lens cap and hood painful. 4) This is cheap, stupidly cheap for what you get. I want the nikkor version but 1k worth of pain is a way off for me hence this is a great stop gap solution, I will probably go the nikkor version later, not for for any sharpness or bokeh benefits but more purely for the AF. The manual focus is ok if you have time but gets painful when tracking chaos on wheels. a quick example of the sharpness (no web sharpening).... an absolute awe inspiring composition too.      
			
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			 by Mr Darcy on Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:40 am
 Well that's pretty crap. I can't see what level he's on on Angry Birds   GregIt's easy to be good... when there is nothing else to do
 
			
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			 by Remorhaz on Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:44 am
 Thanks Gerry - looks good - I'm not sure how I'd cope with only manual focus tho (I've gone soft...)
 I saw one of these (the Rokinon 85/1.4) for sale on Gumtree yesterday for $400 if anyone is keen (not sure if thats a good price or not).
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			 by surenj on Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:32 pm
 
			
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			 by surenj on Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:33 pm
 biggerry wrote:an absolute awe inspiring composition too. 
 You could even crop 20% off the bottom and still come out on top....    
			
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			 by aim54x on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:33 am
 Gerry, thanks for the pic and first thoughts. I cant wait to see you work your magic with this lens! Mr Darcy wrote:Well that's pretty crap. I can't see what level he's on on Angry Birds   
   Remorhaz wrote:I saw one of these (the Rokinon 85/1.4) for sale on Gumtree yesterday for $400 if anyone is keen (not sure if thats a good price or not).
 I have been watching them for awhile, and 400 for a 2nd hand copy is too much. You can get one for about 370 landed out of HK.CameronNikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura BlackScout-Images | Flickr | 365Project 
			
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			 by aim54x on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:35 am
 Gerry, thanks for the pic and first thoughts. I cant wait to see you work your magic with this lens! Mr Darcy wrote:Well that's pretty crap. I can't see what level he's on on Angry Birds   
   Remorhaz wrote:I saw one of these (the Rokinon 85/1.4) for sale on Gumtree yesterday for $400 if anyone is keen (not sure if thats a good price or not).
 I have been watching them for awhile, and 400 for a 2nd hand copy is too much. You can get one for about 370 landed out of HK.CameronNikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura BlackScout-Images | Flickr | 365Project 
			
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			 by Murray Foote on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:08 pm
 They also have a 24 f1.4 on the way which could also be tempting, especially since you have less need of AF with a wide angle verging on ultrawide. 
			
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			 by biggerry on Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:36 pm
 Mr Darcy wrote:Well that's pretty crap. I can't see what level he's on on Angry Birds   
 man, i only got a few levels left to go on the phone, that sh$t is addictive, i have even got the 2yro playing it now, does alright too... Remorhaz wrote:I saw one of these (the Rokinon 85/1.4) for sale on Gumtree yesterday for $400 if anyone is keen (not sure if thats a good price or not).
 yeah i would not even consider a used one for anything less than 200, they go new for 379. surenj wrote:How does this compare to the 85 1.8 nikkor? 
 dunno, when i get the 85mm 1.4 i will let ya know...donations anybody? surenj wrote:You could even crop 20% off the bottom and still come out on top.... 
 lol.. aim54x wrote:Gerry, thanks for the pic and first thoughts. I cant wait to see you work your magic with this lens!
 its pretty hard work, focusing is quite hard and the focu indicator in camera is all but useful to be honest, the range in which it thinks it is in focus is not actually what is in focus... 
			
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			 by aim54x on Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:36 pm
 biggerry wrote:its pretty hard work, focusing is quite hard and the focu indicator in camera is all but useful to be honest, the range in which it thinks it is in focus is not actually what is in focus...
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			 by surenj on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:35 pm
 biggerry wrote:    surenj wrote:How does this compare to the 85 1.8 nikkor? dunno, when i get the 85mm 1.4 i will let ya know...donations anybody?
 I meant the nikkor 85 1.8  AF not 1.4.    Only reason I asked was that it would seem that the nikkor 1.8 is about $400 gray. [Is that correct? I don't know much about this Nikon nomenclature with AF-D, AF-S etc etc]Last edited by surenj  on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
					
				 
			
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			 by surenj on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:36 pm
 On second look, these look quite contrasty like your 300mm pics....
 How do you find the contrast levels with the Samyang?
 
			
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			 by biggerry on Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:03 pm
 surenj wrote:biggerry wrote:    surenj wrote:How does this compare to the 85 1.8 nikkor? dunno, when i get the 85mm 1.4 i will let ya know...donations anybody?
 I meant the nikkor 85 1.8  AF not 1.4.    Only reason I asked was that it would seem that the nikkor 1.8 is about $400 gray. [Is that correct? I don't know much about this Nikon nomenclature with AF-D, AF-S etc etc]
 ahh yes, the 1.8 is a much cheaper option, I have never seen or used it though so yes I would also be interested in how it compares too. 
			
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			 by biggerry on Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:05 pm
 surenj wrote:On second look, these look quite contrasty like your 300mm pics....
 How do you find the contrast levels with the Samyang?
 very very nice.. camparable to the 105 and the 300mm f4, not quite as good but close, purely from a anecdotal POV tho. when you get the 1.4 in focus that bokeh is nice.  
			
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			 by surenj on Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:15 pm
 Gerry, That's a classic pic. Nice Bokeh and subject matter.     I reckon though 85 is a little long for indoors use. [depends on the size of your indoors of course] 
			
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			 by MATT on Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:07 pm
 I have one also. The first time I used it I could not get the focus. This from my D700 and the 85 1.4 Rockinasomethingarather. I missed focus slightly.. It has made me decide I need (not realy more want) an AF 85 1.4  Mikah End of Year Concert-4643.jpg  by MATT APPEL , on Flickr MATT 
			
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			 by biggerry on Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:32 pm
 MATT wrote:The first time I used it I could not get the focus.
 did your focus strike rate increase? I have found mine is getting better but I would not want to rely on it to nail a critical shot... 
			
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			 by colin_12 on Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:42 pm
 [quote="biggerry]ahh yes, the 1.8 is a much cheaper option, I have never seen or used it though so yes I would also be interested in how it compares too.[/quote] I have the 1.8 Gerry. I think it is pretty good. If you want to give it a go remind me to bring it along next time we are all together or come and pick it up for a holiday.  Regards ColinCameras, lenses and a lust for life
 
			
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