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PP or no PP, can you tell?

Postby Trieu on Thu May 25, 2006 8:15 pm

Hi everyone, I need to ask a question about Post Processing..

Can you tell if a picture has been through PP? Are there any tell tales signs?

I have not started PP'ing yet... but might be soon.
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Postby stubbsy on Thu May 25, 2006 8:20 pm

Trieu

It depends how the PP was done. EVERY one of my images gets PP - can you tell? Probably only if you see the un PP shot. How's this for an extreme example:

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Postby wendellt on Thu May 25, 2006 8:20 pm

check suspect shadows

blue fringe around deep etched images

check file size if twice as big as it should be it has been sharpened

generally if it looks too vibrant it has been pp

nothing wrong with pp it's your vision use whatever tools and processes you you need to get your message across
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Re: PP or no PP, can you tell?

Postby NikonUser on Thu May 25, 2006 8:21 pm

Trieu wrote:

Can you tell if a picture has been through PP? Are there any tell tales signs?



It's wet?? :)

sorry

Seriously... Not exactly sure what you mean Trieu. Do you mean is there any way of telling if a picture has been PostProcessed as in things like EXIF data ...or just by looking at it?

I have some non-processed images that look as good or better than some that have been heavily processed.

NB: When I say non-processed I mean no colour adjustments etc... All my pics go through slight PP.... even if it's just sharpening and slight contrast/saturation adjustments... most get a good deal more.

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Postby Finch on Thu May 25, 2006 8:22 pm

Trieu,

This all depends on the person who is doing the PP'ing and the amount that has been done.

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Postby Geoff on Thu May 25, 2006 8:30 pm

With respect, I've just moved this thread to the post processing forum. :)
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Postby avkomp on Thu May 25, 2006 8:32 pm

I am with finch on this one.

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Postby Trieu on Thu May 25, 2006 8:32 pm

Thanks all,

Stubbsy, wow what a difference, yeah I wouldn't mind fixing some of my shots that I wish the lighting was more/less or details were softer/sharper.

Paul, yeap, I meant just by looking at it :) cause really I cannot tell... or don't know what to look for.

At first I felt abit ify about PP but now I am tending towards it more and more..
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Postby mark on Thu May 25, 2006 8:42 pm

Hi Trieu,

I'm pretty new to Photography but have been using Photoshop for years and in recent times have read An Ansel Adams Guide - Basic Techniques of Photography by John P. Schaefer. The book deals with film photography but gives excellent information on how a camera and light work, but that's a different issue.

Getting to the point, the book shows how the darkroom process can be used to enhance an image. For instance different colour filters can be used to create stronger tones of a colour in the print. On top of this in the dark room photographers would "dodge" (cover an area whilst the rest of the paper is exposed to light) and "burn" (longer exp to light).

You will find that all techniques of darkroom editing of negative to print changes are for the digital photographer done in pp.

So summing up, If you want to be a photographer who produces "fine prints" as Ansel Adams would say when he was finally happy with the developed image, then you will want to PP your images.

There is nothing wrong with a pp'd image, all you are doing is what a film photographer can do in the darkroom, including using multiple negatives to create one print.

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Re: PP or no PP, can you tell?

Postby johnd on Thu May 25, 2006 9:59 pm

Trieu wrote:I have not started PP'ing yet... but might be soon.


You will Trieu, you will. And when you do you'll realise it's almost as addictive as photography itself.
I'll just tweak these couple images a bit and see if I can make them look better. Woops where did the afternoon go?
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Postby NikonUser on Thu May 25, 2006 10:15 pm

Is anyone else seeing the funny side of these quotes if they are taken out of context.... or am I just a little twisted?

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Postby Matt. K on Thu May 25, 2006 10:19 pm

Trieu

It depends on what PP has been done to the image. Very difficult to tell if mild global adjustments are done. If you cut and paste something in then it will be detectable by experts. If you carry out local (on just a part of your image) PP then it will be detectable by close examination by an expert.
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Postby Trieu on Thu May 25, 2006 10:23 pm

Cool, thanks for alll the info.

HHHhaeahaaeaehea twisted is good :lol:
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Postby mark on Thu May 25, 2006 10:29 pm

NikonUser wrote:Is anyone else seeing the funny side of these quotes if they are taken out of context.... or am I just a little twisted?

:oops:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just put my 7 & 4 year olds to bed and thought the pee and poo jokes were over for the day.

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Postby NikonUser on Thu May 25, 2006 10:41 pm

Hehe

I'm only 24 on the outside!! :)
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Postby mark on Thu May 25, 2006 10:46 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't get me wrong I like it and all, It's mostly me egging my boys on anyway.
Sorry all for the off topic, well sort of.
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