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B&W enlarger

Postby Hlop on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:52 am

Hi,

I'm looking for a secondhand B&W enlarger to print from film up to 6x7 and to size up to 30x40 (ideally up to 50x60 but not necessary). Anyone's selling? Anyone knows someone who's selling? Anyone whants to get rid of old stuff? :) I could help :)
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Postby Sheila Smart on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:11 am

Do you REALLY want to go down this track :D Smelly chemicals, red light, tape around the door :?

The closest I get to chemicals is the 220 in my chardy perched on my computer table while editing in PSCS2 :D :D

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Postby Hlop on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:21 am

Sheila Smart wrote:Do you REALLY want to go down this track :D Smelly chemicals, red light, tape around the door :?

The closest I get to chemicals is the 220 in my chardy perched on my computer table while editing in PSCS2 :D :D


I did this in the past, then I switched to digital and now I'm back with film again. Yes, I REALLY want to go down this track. Don't ask me why - I just fell like this. I'm developing color and B&W films myself and scanning them. Now, I'd like to print B&W myself and whant to stay away from PSCS etc. as far as I can - enough computers at work I totally fed up with them. Perhaps in the future I'll start printing colour as well.
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Postby Glen on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:23 am

Sheila Smart wrote:The closest I get to chemicals is the 220 in my chardy perched on my computer table while editing in PSCS2 :D :D

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Very quick Sheila. The omnipresent sulphur dioxide.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:26 am

Hilop,
When will you move back to digital after film?
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Postby Hlop on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:30 am

Birddog114 wrote:Hilop,
When will you move back to digital after film?


I haven't completely switched to film - as I said before, I'm still using my D70 for some applications where manual focus and exposure cameras aren't that comfortable but mostly I'm using my ancient cameras meantime.

And yes, question is still open - I'm still looking for B&W enlarger :)
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Postby sydneywebcam on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:22 am

If you are quick there are two 5X4 enlargers on ebay at the moment.

Durst

De Vere

The DeVere is located in Brookvale which is close to you.
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Postby Hlop on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:42 am

sydneywebcam wrote:If you are quick there are two 5X4 enlargers on ebay at the moment.
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The DeVere is located in Brookvale which is close to you.


Thanks Paul,

I'm just wondering if I can print B&W with colour head and if I can use Ilford multigrade filters. Can I?
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Postby sydneywebcam on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:49 am

I don't know the answer to that Mikhail. I've never used a colour head enlarger, only B&W's. Try contacting the eBay seller.
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Postby radar on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:56 am

Hi Mikhail,

I've asked a friend that has one if he wants to sell it.

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Postby sydneywebcam on Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:11 pm

Have done a quick bit of research as I wanted to know the answer to your question too.

Yes you can use a colour head, in fact you won't need any extra filters for multi grade paper, you just dial it in on the colour head.

Here is a link that gives good info on what to do:

http://www3.telus.net/drkrm/equip_popup.htm

Also here:
http://www3.telus.net/drkrm/index.html

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Postby gstark on Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:16 pm

Hlop wrote:
sydneywebcam wrote:If you are quick there are two 5X4 enlargers on ebay at the moment.
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The DeVere is located in Brookvale which is close to you.


Thanks Paul,

I'm just wondering if I can print B&W with colour head and if I can use Ilford multigrade filters. Can I?


Genrally, yes.

If you're going for a 5x4, you'll need to ensure that you get all of the adaptors for the different filmsizes - 6xwhatevr and 35.
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Postby sydneywebcam on Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:19 pm

Well done Mikhail, I see you bought the enlarger. It was certainly a good deal. Best of luck with getting your darkroom up and running.
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Postby Hlop on Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:09 pm

gstark wrote:Genrally, yes.

If you're going for a 5x4, you'll need to ensure that you get all of the adaptors for the different filmsizes - 6xwhatevr and 35.


Anyway, I'll need to customise one for xpan 24x65 mm frame - I don't think there are standard ones.

5x4 is definetely something I'd like to try and I even have 2 packs of Ilford Delta 4x5 sheetfilms. The only thing I need is large format camera to borrow and reels to develop sheets in the drum

Thanks everyone! I decided to go De Vere because they have s good reputation and in the futureI might try colour wet printing with this one (I do have a JOBO CPE-2 and drum for papers)
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Postby big pix on Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:01 pm

I have 1 durst with large column and 2 besslers lens neg carriers and colour heads........ but they are in queensland....... all 5 x 4
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Postby big pix on Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:02 pm

Hlop wrote:I'm just wondering if I can print B&W with colour head and if I can use Ilford multigrade filters. Can I?


yes .... you get a better result printing B&W with a colour head..........
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Postby hdj80 on Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:48 pm

Definitely get a colour head so if you decide you want to print colour you don't have to stuff around with matching filters out of the pack.

I loved printing mono and if I had the dedicated area would go back to doing some. It's quite theureputic.

Printing Ilfochrome is also great stuff. It is a bit tricky particularly in loading the drum and doing the exposure in complete and utter darkness.

Does anything match a Ilfochrome/Cibachrome print?

With the size of prints you want to do I would think you will nearly have to have a 5x4 enlarger.
In 6x7 the LPL 7700 C is a nice enlarger.

Check out Kayell in Brisbane for used enlargers.
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Postby Hlop on Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:02 pm

Hi Craig,

Already got DeVere 504 with color Dichromat head (capable up to 5x4"). Not sure if my bathroom-style dark room will be suitable to print ilfochrome/cibachrome - it isn't dark enough for such process I think. But seems too be dark enough for B&W
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Postby byrt_001 on Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:15 pm

hi

just to add to the cibachorme

you need to have a very well aerated room, an airextrator is a must. the cibachrome chemicals are extremely strong and very hard.

durst enlarges: be very careful as some of them the head are very plastic and get loose and there is no way to fix it. i think the 600 series they have that problem.

ilford multigrade paper is the best, try ilford multigrade gallery, very nice paper.
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