cheers rob
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i thought my 70-200 vr was big with the t/c ...... but my 200-400 is a monster !
cheers rob
Yep - I've seen them in the flesh (?) at birddogs. Although to be fair the difference is marginally less when the hoods are removed (but only marginally).
Where are some shots with it? Peter
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You are a cruel cruel man Rob...
Say! Where did you live again? Street address please? And when will you be away from home for some time? And please be a good chap and leave the front door unlocked  New page
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i picked it up about 12:30pm and now its 1:30pm and i have to get some sleep before i go for night shift at 7:30pm .......... so i hardly had it unpacked ..... so far all i know is it's bloody heavy ! ....... nite
cheers rob
Quick .. he's asleep.  my karma just ran over your dogma
Rob,
Congratulations and I would imagine a  camper.
Guess what I will be testing out at the next 'Adelaide Mini Meet' at Monarto Zoo on Sunday 20 March, 2005 hmmm.....with Rob's permission of course. ta ta for now,  fozzie
When people ask what equipment I use - I tell them my eyes.
Wow Rob, ok i gather u prolly asleep but yeh hope u bring this on the 20th to Monarto for us all to have a play with.LOL
Well near 2 pm here same as for u Rob but my post time is wrong when i post, was in the truck and on job site ready to poor at 6am, still dark and have a photo shoot at 5pm so i might lay down for couple hours while the boss is out and kids not home yet. Good to see it arrived safe and well. Cheers John BBJ PS: Fozzie we think alike. LOL D3,D2x,D70,18-70 kit lens,Sigma 70-200mm F2.8EX HSM,Nikon AF-I 300m F2.8, TC20E 2X
80-400VR,SB800,Vosonic X Drive,VP6210 40 http://www.oz-images.com
And they say that cars are an indication of a mans phallus fantasy - this lens surpasses any car
Enjoy Chris
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New generation of users! They all go for VR now! two more 200-400VR ordered today from two Sydneysiders and perhaps it'll be shortage same as the 70-200VR.
Birddog114
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That's how Sydneysiders cope, my friend! Birddog114
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Interesting thought. I see the biggest plus of VR is it gives me more stops hand held. I have no problem hand holding with either the 80-400 or 70-200, but the 200-400 - fugeddit
So... Why would VR be advantageous when tripod mounted vs a non VR lens which would, presumably, cost less? Peter
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!/ they don't make 200-400 Non VR version
2/ with VR you can pan easily and flexibility in handholding, non VR with tripod or monopod then make you cranky once you missed the shots. Too slow with tripod or monopod, my hard earned experiences 3/ The Non VR lens say AF-S 300/f.4 is nearly Aussie $2K, AF-S 300/2.8 nearly 8K, 400/f.2.8 = $15k, price at retails shop in Australia. Birddog114
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Re: 200=400
Then buy non-VR if money is not your objects! 200-400Vr is designed for shoot in handholding techniques and I did with it but could not do with non VR lenses in that range. Non VR in that range (Nikon) cost you more! Birddog114
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Birdy, you may have done this just to see if it was possible, but you wouldn't really consider it for any event would you? Your arm would drop off before your 10th shot. I could see a use for the VR though if you had it mounted on a helicopter chasing wildlife in Africa. __________
Phillip **Nikon D7000**
Yes, exactly! around 10 shot, it is OK with VR lens but none with non VR lens in that range. Handholding technique is not required you to have the lens in armed mode all the time, after one or two shots, put it down, breath, rest and re-arm and shoot. Can't do that with NON-VR. In rotary wing, more impossible with Non VR, even VR lens is still affected with the vibration of the airframe. Birddog114
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Do they have special stabilisation mounts for helicopter ie. something gyro based?
You could imaging flying over some war torn country with a 200-400VR with some nice helicopter mount and have some poor ground person thinking he's being tracked with an M60.
Yes, I have one, it can mount on the rotary airframe with VR again (Vibration absorbing system) and it cost me nearly US$3K with special mounting hardware and construction. P.S: Design and spec. for the US Military. Birddog114
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kipper, Just ask! do you want to join the gang up here? Yes or No? No excuse/ no explanation, we're recruiting someone like you! Birddog114
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Sydney siders and anyone over that way need big lenses so they can get closer without camera being taken off them. LOL
D3,D2x,D70,18-70 kit lens,Sigma 70-200mm F2.8EX HSM,Nikon AF-I 300m F2.8, TC20E 2X
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RobW, congratulations, really great piece of glass. I am sure you will love it! Personally I would not be able to sleep
Philipb, have handheld Birddy's 200-400, not bad at all (maybe raw enthusiasm helped), don't think I would have a problem handholding except maybe a football match where you have to be always on, where I would use a monopod with VR ps Robw, talk to Birddy re the RRS replacement foot, details here http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/lens_pl ... index.html
Glen - you could always sell off some of your Pepsi glass and buy the 200-400VR Chris
-------------------------------- I started my life with nothing and I’ve still got most of it left
What about the gain in quality - let’s face it Sigma is Coke Glass, Nikon is Pepsi Glass and the Russian is rats glarse Chris
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Onyx, No way! 300VR is on another budget and it's already set!
I hardly sold anything which I bought! Birddog114
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Um... we'd sort of noticed that Birddog... Cheers, John
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took a quick trip to the marina last night before work and took this ... done the usual stuff in capture then some sharpening in cs, used a monopod .... birdy in the book it says ........ IMPORTANT be sure to attach a 52mm screw in filter to the built-in gelatin filter holder ??
cheers rob 
Rob,
You've made it! amazing shots! You're not going to leave without it, aren't you? Birddog114
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fozzie, Order one, and you'll have it before March 20! Birddog114
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Birddog,
I would have to win a 'Lottery' to afford the 200-400VR. As I do not gamble, no chance. I will just have to be happy to see Rob's next month. ta ta for now, fozzie
When people ask what equipment I use - I tell them my eyes.
RobW - excellent shot considering the subject was 10 miles away
Chris
-------------------------------- I started my life with nothing and I’ve still got most of it left
fozzie, hahahahah! Do you know that, Rob will ask for a small premium of $20.00 everytime you want to touch it? 
Pretty nice looking toy! Last edited by birddog114 on Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
Birddog114
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Rob,
I have one of this to go with the full 200-400VR and my D2h body, can be accomodated with any TC attached. http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpac ... 00_AW.aspx Birddog114
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Birddog,
I will organise some sort of contra deal with Rob, that way saving on $20.00 premium .
I must get back to work now  .
Seeya, fozzie
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