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3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:24 pm

It has been mentioned a few times in the Film sub forum...but I thought I may as well get this off the ground and ask for EOI's for a film meet.....bring any camera as long as it records on an analogue medium!! Once we get a show of hands we can work out when and where.....and if someone wants to come along but no longer owns any analogue recorders I am sure we can organise a loaner...and maybe even some film.

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-myself (aim54x)
-Patrick (Reschsmooth)
-Gerry (BigGerry)
-Gary (GStark)
-Alfred (malificentmuse)
-Peter (non-member)

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DATE - 3 Jan 2013
PLACE - Circular Quay Wharf 6
TIME - 10.00
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:31 pm

count me in, i got some ancient film thingy in a draw somewhere and no clue on how to use it, this sounds like a good excuse to actually use it! (and waste some film cause I reckon they will be either be all black or all white)
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:37 pm

biggerry wrote:count me in, i got some ancient film thingy in a draw somewhere and no clue on how to use it, this sounds like a good excuse to actually use it! (and waste some film cause I reckon they will be either be all black or all white)



See Gerry, many film cameras have a feature where you can actually open the back after each shot and check exposure. Obviously not like the newer digital cameras where there is a colour screen. If you look at the back of a Nikon F6, for example, there is a little LCD screen that produces a histogram. The older cameras didn't have this, and you had to actually open the back and check. If it is too dark to see, you can use a torch. :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Srsly, I am in for this, pending date. We can take this further, like we did a number of years ago, and run a film development bit afterwards. I have plenty of tanks and if we run the same film, can load a number of films in the tanks. I also have one dark bag to allow for loading the film.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby gstark on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:48 pm

I'm in as well, although this'll need to be next year for me.

I too have a change bag, a developing tank, and some filum.

If we do this in summer, and go with Patrick's suggestion, we will also need to take into account the weather conditions on the day: higher temps can make processing a bit of a challenge, as we need to control the temperatures of the various soups that we use; having a supply of cold water or ice is sometimes prudent.

Mind you, I expect that there'll be some olde skool apparatus at Patrick's this weekend.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:54 pm

gstark wrote:I'm in as well, although this'll need to be next year for me.

I too have a change bag, a developing tank, and some filum.

If we do this in summer, and go with Patrick's suggestion, we will also need to take into account the weather conditions on the day: higher temps can make processing a bit of a challenge, as we need to control the temperatures of the various soups that we use; having a supply of cold water or ice is sometimes prudent.

Mind you, I expect that there'll be some olde skool apparatus at Patrick's this weekend.


You mean "hipster", I believe. But I refuse to inflict skinny jeans on the world.

For temperature control, I have a stack of trays/tubs that can be used as water baths.

[Incidentally, did my first real 'big' prints (12x15 on 16x20 paper) on the weekend. I am hoping to tone and mount them before the weekend.]
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:20 pm

"hipsters" should be lined up and shot......they are not even worth a single round each!

Seriously, I have a bulk roller and some blank cartridges so if we want to ensure everyone gets the same film stock we can go down this route...and for kicks we can roll short (12exp) cartridges or extra long (40exp).
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:18 pm

I have no idea what you clowns are talking about (a change bag is something I carried around with chaos a year ago! :rotfl2: ) but this sounds like fun.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby gstark on Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:33 pm

aim54x wrote:"hipsters" should be lined up and shot......they are not even worth a single round each!


I'm sorry, but no matter how you spin it, that would be illegal: cruel and unusual punishment to the bullet!
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 pm

gstark wrote:
aim54x wrote:"hipsters" should be lined up and shot......they are not even worth a single round each!


I'm sorry, but no matter how you spin it, that would be illegal: cruel and unusual punishment to the bullet!


Yes I guess we could use misbehaving bullets....large calibre with manufacturing defects?
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:27 pm

aim54x wrote:
gstark wrote:
aim54x wrote:"hipsters" should be lined up and shot......they are not even worth a single round each!


I'm sorry, but no matter how you spin it, that would be illegal: cruel and unusual punishment to the bullet!


Yes I guess we could use misbehaving bullets....large calibre with manufacturing defects?


Just find a rifle without any, well, rifling.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:36 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:Just find a rifle without any, well, rifling.


You mean a musket?
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:02 pm

aim54x wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:Just find a rifle without any, well, rifling.


You mean a musket?


I was going off a misunderstanding that smoothbore firearms were against the Geneva convention due to the action on the projectile causing more damage.
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Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:29 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:I was going off a misunderstanding that smoothbore firearms were against the Geneva convention due to the action on the projectile causing more damage.


I suspect you were referring to the clause regarding usage of weapons that cause unnecessary suffering (ie hollowpoint, non-fully jacketed slugs)
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Remorhaz on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:33 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:many film cameras have a feature where you can actually open the back after each shot and check exposure...


Well that will satisfy Gerry's requirement for all black or all white then :)
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:34 pm

Remorhaz wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:many film cameras have a feature where you can actually open the back after each shot and check exposure...


Well that will satisfy Gerry's requirement for all black or all white then :)


I am gonna lay a bet here, 99% chance I will get all black or all white and 1% chance it will be outta focus.

Now, film groupies.. what film do I stick in this and where do i get said film?

on the up side, I know how to change the aperture, shutter speed and focus the lens....it took me a while to work out how to open the thing :roll:

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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Mj on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:40 pm

biggerry wrote:....it took me a while to work out how to open the thing


With a hammer??? :biglaugh:
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:40 pm

holy sh$t batman 198 bucks a roll....screw this film stuff!
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:41 pm

Mj wrote:
biggerry wrote:....it took me a while to work out how to open the thing


With a hammer??? :biglaugh:


that did cross my mind...
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:47 pm

that is a nice camera Gerry!
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Postby gstark on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:39 am

biggerry wrote:Now, film groupies.. what film do I stick in this and where do i get said film?


Was there a take-up spool in the film chamber?

The engraving says 6x9, which, in today's world, implies 120 or 220 film, but for the age of that one, I'm inclined to think the NLA 620 might be what's needed.

Which means that you need to google converting 120 to 620.
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Postby aim54x on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:04 am

biggerry wrote:holy sh$t batman 198 bucks a roll....screw this film stuff!


What film were you looking at??

biggerry wrote:Now, film groupies.. what film do I stick in this and where do i get said film?


Google suggests there is a good chance that it is a 120/220......I am having trouble nailing the exact model of this camera though.
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Postby biggerry on Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:12 pm

gstark wrote:Which means that you need to google converting 120 to 620.


cheers

aim54x wrote:What film were you looking at??
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tru blue original stuff :biglaugh:

aim54x wrote:.I am having trouble nailing the exact model of this camera though.


Zeiss Ikon Ikonta B, 521/16. 6 X 6 on 120 film.

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Postby aim54x on Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:15 pm

well that is convenient (120 film is easy to get)....the B2 6x9 on the inside was not helping!

has anyone tried these guys??

http://www.lofico.com.au/
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Postby biggerry on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:05 pm

aim54x wrote:well that is convenient (120 film is easy to get)....the B2 6x9 on the inside was not helping!

has anyone tried these guys??

http://www.lofico.com.au/


I found them while searching for 120 film also, the prices seem disturbingly reasonable

what do peeps recommend to me for 120 film? Fujifilm Velvia 100 - Color Slide 120 Film and some Ilford Pan F Plus 50 - B&W 120 Film ? those are just names /types I have heard but really have no idea :oops:
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Postby aim54x on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:35 pm

biggerry wrote:what do peeps recommend to me for 120 film? Fujifilm Velvia 100 - Color Slide 120 Film and some Ilford Pan F Plus 50 - B&W 120 Film ? those are just names /types I have heard but really have no idea :oops:


As a first time roll...go with FP4+ (125) or HP5+ (400)....nice and easy to use, readily available, relatively inexpensive and forgiving. If you prefer Kodak then 400TX
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Postby biggerry on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:36 pm

aim54x wrote:As a first time roll...go with FP4+ (125) or HP5+ (400)....nice and easy to use, readily available, relatively inexpensive and forgiving. If you prefer Kodak then 400TX


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Postby aim54x on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:16 pm

great find!
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Postby Reschsmooth on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:18 pm

aim54x wrote:
biggerry wrote:what do peeps recommend to me for 120 film? Fujifilm Velvia 100 - Color Slide 120 Film and some Ilford Pan F Plus 50 - B&W 120 Film ? those are just names /types I have heard but really have no idea :oops:


As a first time roll...go with FP4+ (125) or HP5+ (400)....nice and easy to use, readily available, relatively inexpensive and forgiving. If you prefer Kodak then 400TX


Those prices seem really reasonable - I was paying the equivalent of about $9 per roll of FP4+ delivered from my usual ebay vendor.

Agree with Cam's suggestions. I suggest avoiding slide film as the ease with which and cost of making a mistake is a lot higher (granted, a roll plus developing is about $20).

You need to consider where you will get the rolls developed as well. I think very few labs develop B&W film, although not sure.
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Postby aim54x on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:24 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:I think very few labs develop B&W film, although not sure.


Cheapest place in town for BW proccessing is actually Foto Riesel Create about $15 for Develop and Scan. There is Blanco Negro (who i will never send another roll of film to....) and there is always the DIY option (my preferred method)
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aim54x wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:I think very few labs develop B&W film, although not sure.


Cheapest place in town for BW proccessing is actually Foto Riesel Create about $15 for Develop and Scan. There is Blanco Negro (who i will never send another roll of film to....) and there is always the DIY option (my preferred method)


I have used FR and they were reasonable. But I agree, for someone who may go through a number of rolls, the DIY optoin is a PoP :biglaugh: and quite accessible.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby biggerry on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:51 pm

aim54x wrote:has anyone tried these guys??

http://www.lofico.com.au/


have now, delivery time was Ok, less than a week, prices good and I like their webbie too.
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biggerry wrote:
aim54x wrote:has anyone tried these guys??

http://www.lofico.com.au/


have now, delivery time was Ok, less than a week, prices good and I like their webbie too.


Sounds awesome! I may have try them later when I need more film
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Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:39 pm

Well I guess it is only fair that I revisit this post and take stock. It looks like there won't be too many attendees other than the ones that have been listed in the first post. So we should move onto the next stage....WHEN/WHERE

Now it is well known that I am an idiot that works too much and struggles to find any time off...but I will have the 24-Dec - 4-Jan off work (I may still work the weekends at the camera store though) so I would be suggesting that maybe we should see if anyone else will be available for even a few hours on the 3rd or 4th of Jan 2013.

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Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:37 pm

Either of those days suit me. As to where, well, part of that will depend on what we do after the 'shooting' part - do we congregate somewhere to develop the films or do we go on our merry ways?
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Postby biggerry on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:33 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:Either of those days suit me. As to where, well, part of that will depend on what we do after the 'shooting' part - do we congregate somewhere to develop the films or do we go on our merry ways?


gotta get instant gratification - processing afterwards is desirable - even if its all black or white :)
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Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:32 pm

biggerry wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:Either of those days suit me. As to where, well, part of that will depend on what we do after the 'shooting' part - do we congregate somewhere to develop the films or do we go on our merry ways?


gotta get instant gratification - processing afterwards is desirable - even if its all black or white :)


Well that limits our options.....but if Patrick is willing you may be able to get get some instant gratification. Patrick?
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Postby Steffen on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:45 pm

So, which film are we watching again?

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Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:38 pm

aim54x wrote:
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Reschsmooth wrote:Either of those days suit me. As to where, well, part of that will depend on what we do after the 'shooting' part - do we congregate somewhere to develop the films or do we go on our merry ways?


gotta get instant gratification - processing afterwards is desirable - even if its all black or white :)


Well that limits our options.....but if Patrick is willing you may be able to get get some instant gratification. Patrick?


I expect dinner first. :biglaugh:

Seriously, we can adjourn to my darkroom for developing.
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:09 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:I expect dinner first. :biglaugh:

Seriously, we can adjourn to my darkroom for developing.


Thanks...I guess we have to work out the other details then.
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Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:32 pm

Just thought I would revive this a little bit.....Thursday 3rd January as the date, maybe a stroll through the Rocks area or something else and then adjourning for food, and if we are keen we may be able to organise some Darkroom time (for instant gratification).

Patrick if you have any objections to the above discussed options let me know and I will see what I can organise. If anyone has any other ideas as to what to do/where to go please feel to let me know....Also we do need to work out a suitable time/place to meet.
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Matt. K on Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:13 pm

Group processing....how romantic! I can see you all now, fumbling in the dark and twirling your spindles. :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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Re: EOI - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:17 am

aim54x wrote:Just thought I would revive this a little bit.....Thursday 3rd January as the date, maybe a stroll through the Rocks area or something else and then adjourning for food, and if we are keen we may be able to organise some Darkroom time (for instant gratification).

Patrick if you have any objections to the above discussed options let me know and I will see what I can organise. If anyone has any other ideas as to what to do/where to go please feel to let me know....Also we do need to work out a suitable time/place to meet.


Cameron, no problem at all. We won't need the darkroom as such, just the change bag and tanks/reels. I will need to get some more developer, or mix up the D76 I have in the box.
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Postby aim54x on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:23 pm

Im sure if we end up doing this, people will not be adverse to chipping in for some chemicals
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:42 pm

aim54x wrote:Im sure if we end up doing this, people will not be adverse to chipping in for some chemicals


It should be no sweat as I have bags of D76 to mix up.
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:18 pm

Granted this is still a year away, do we have meeting place and time details?
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:25 pm

I was hoping that someone would have some suggestions as to where and what to do....
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:33 am

Patrick has made the great suggestion of taking the Manly Ferry, taking photos in Manly before returning for a session in the Rocks followed by an optional trip to process film for those who need instant gratification.

So we should meet at Circular Quay at the Manly Ferry Wharf at 10am aiming to catch the 10:10 ferry
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby Reschsmooth on Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:49 pm

Sounds good. I was suggesting meet at Manly, catch the Manly Ferry as it makes its way to Circular Quay, then we can be so restless around the Rocks, catch a pub lunch and then go from there. Happy with either.
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Re: 3 Jan 2013 - Film Meet Sydney

Postby aim54x on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:07 pm

Seeing that this bad been quite I am going to assume that we are going ahead. I think all of you have my mobile so let me know if there is any drastic changes otherwise I will get on the 10:10 ferry tomorrow and meet people either at the quay, on that ferry, or at manly at about 10:30.

I will check this thread again later so please keep posting. If you need my mobile then Pm me
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